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Say No To The Vocoder 10 Months, 3 Weeks ago Give Props!: 1  
No matter who becomes President, this election year is sure to bring change in Washington. Both parties are presenting candidates who want to learn from the mistakes of the Bush years and regain America’s standing throughout the world. Today, the Hip-Hop community represents an ever expanding range of backgrounds, ethnicities and experiences, so we have a responsibility to combine our vast resources to correct what may be the biggest tragedy of the last several years: the resurgence of the Vocoder.

To be fair, the worst offenders actually use variations on the device like the Sonovox and Autotuner, but all of them are children of this mighty beast. Once an innocent vocal effect to help sing a song of love between a boy and his computer, the Vocoder family has since become a studio trick to cover up the fact that many of today’s Pop singers can’t actually sing (like, at all). Ever heard T-Pain live with the effects turned off? Yuck. Britney? Even worse. Rihanna’s dead, soulless eyes already scream “femmebot,” so adding a cold, mechanical tone to her naturally flat one-octave range seemingly only makes things worse.

It would be a shame, however, to eliminate the Vocoder from the planet altogether since its powers can be used for good. Snoop Dogg’s “Sexual Eruption” is perhaps the most fun integration of man and machine since The Huxtables met Stevie Wonder*.






Classic Rock heads might also point to Peter Frampton using a Vocoder variation for his famous “talking guitar” bit, and European dance producers everywhere would be devastated without one of their favorite plug-ins. Nevertheless, the world would certainly be a better place if we never had to hear Cher’s “Do You Believe in Love” again.

At this rate, if anyone with a computer can become a wealthy Pop sensation, our economy will surely be in ruins by the end of the decade. Therefore, I propose that, beginning in 2008, the use of Vocoder effects join driving, carrying concealed weapons and selling weed (Cali be on that medicinal Kryptonite) as regulated activities only to be performed by licensed individuals. Licenses will be awarded on a song-by-song basis by a council of trust-worthy individuals made up of Stevie Wonder, Prince, one of those robot guys from Daft Punk, Johnny 5 from the Short Circuit movies and esteemed theoretical physicist Dr. Stephen Hawking. We absolutely must contain this growing threat, so write your Congressman and encourage him to support Vocoder Control in ’08, if not for yourself, then for the future of our country.



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Re:Say No To The Vocoder 10 Months, 3 Weeks ago Give Props!: 0  
heh...this was entertaining...but yeah...tpain sucks w/o that vocoder...

i like rihanna though
 
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man, you're right, I also used auto-tune on one of my tracks but it wasn't only the back vocals (it was hip-hop, smooth shit)

But that shit sucks, nowadays every nice girl can become a pop star
 
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BRASSCITY wrote:
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No matter who becomes President, this election year is sure to bring change in Washington. Both parties are presenting candidates who want to learn from the mistakes of the Bush years and regain America’s standing throughout the world. Today, the Hip-Hop community represents an ever expanding range of backgrounds, ethnicities and experiences, so we have a responsibility to combine our vast resources to correct what may be the biggest tragedy of the last several years: the resurgence of the Vocoder.

To be fair, the worst offenders actually use variations on the device like the Sonovox and Autotuner, but all of them are children of this mighty beast. Once an innocent vocal effect to help sing a song of love between a boy and his computer, the Vocoder family has since become a studio trick to cover up the fact that many of today’s Pop singers can’t actually sing (like, at all). Ever heard T-Pain live with the effects turned off? Yuck. Britney? Even worse. Rihanna’s dead, soulless eyes already scream “femmebot,” so adding a cold, mechanical tone to her naturally flat one-octave range seemingly only makes things worse.

It would be a shame, however, to eliminate the Vocoder from the planet altogether since its powers can be used for good. Snoop Dogg’s “Sexual Eruption” is perhaps the most fun integration of man and machine since The Huxtables met Stevie Wonder*.






Classic Rock heads might also point to Peter Frampton using a Vocoder variation for his famous “talking guitar” bit, and European dance producers everywhere would be devastated without one of their favorite plug-ins. Nevertheless, the world would certainly be a better place if we never had to hear Cher’s “Do You Believe in Love” again.

At this rate, if anyone with a computer can become a wealthy Pop sensation, our economy will surely be in ruins by the end of the decade. Therefore, I propose that, beginning in 2008, the use of Vocoder effects join driving, carrying concealed weapons and selling weed (Cali be on that medicinal Kryptonite) as regulated activities only to be performed by licensed individuals. Licenses will be awarded on a song-by-song basis by a council of trust-worthy individuals made up of Stevie Wonder, Prince, one of those robot guys from Daft Punk, Johnny 5 from the Short Circuit movies and esteemed theoretical physicist Dr. Stephen Hawking. We absolutely must contain this growing threat, so write your Congressman and encourage him to support Vocoder Control in ’08, if not for yourself, then for the future of our country.




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link: http://allhiphop.com/stories/alternatives/archive/2008/01/10/19060910.aspx


You're wrong about T.Pain! He can actually sing.

PROOF: http://youtube.com/watch?v=sdwuNuSmWxA

britney can sing too. I think the effect is pretty cool and if you sing off key do you want that to be on your cd? I think not... The thing is that it helps to get your cd as perfect as possable. I'm sick of people claiming they know if someone can't sing if they didn't even listen to them live.
 
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Re:Say No To The Vocoder 10 Months, 2 Weeks ago Give Props!: 0  
^ i like that live version over the original
 
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Re:Say No To The Vocoder 10 Months, 2 Weeks ago Give Props!: 0  
i'm more worried about bad rappers who don't use it.
 
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Re:Say No To The Vocoder 10 Months, 2 Weeks ago Give Props!: 1  
Ima have to dis agree on stoppin the Vocoder. That shits dope...I rather use the TALKBOX instead but thats just me.
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Re:Say No To The Vocoder 10 Months, 2 Weeks ago Give Props!: 0  
THE VOCODER IS GREAT BUT BECOMES ANNOYIN WHEN ITS USED TOO MUCH...SOME ARTISTS SOUNDS GREAT ON IT FOR EXAMPLE T-PAIN...WHO GIVES A DAMN IF HE CAN'T SING(HE CAN THO)...WHAT MATTERS IS: WHAT IS HE DOIN WITH IT?...LOOK HOW MANY SONGS HIS ON(YOU CAN'T SAY HIS WACK) THE VOCODER WAS BUILT FOR A REASON...BUT ITS NOT BUILT FOR NON SINGERS TO BECOME SINGERS.
 
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Re:Say No To The Vocoder 10 Months, 2 Weeks ago Give Props!: 2  
Yea just like any effect you have to use it right and on everything is not the way!!!
 
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Re:Say No To The Vocoder 10 Months, 2 Weeks ago Give Props!: -1  
T-Pain can dance... On the cool though all that Sean Combs "talk rap" sounds bad on Vocoder. U gotta sing with the effects.
 
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Re:Say No To The Vocoder 10 Months, 2 Weeks ago Give Props!: 3  
yea, even auto-tune gotta be used right to sound good
 
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Re:Say No To The Vocoder 10 Months, 2 Weeks ago Give Props!: 1  
honestly... autotune is sometimes a tricky lil vst to get it working exactly right

i could care less either way... i think that track with lil wayne it was way too dramatic of an effect but whatcha gonna do...
 
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