Aight I use to think that T.R.U.T.H. had tha worst beats on here but I think i've found someone as bad and is not some amateur that just started. I'm talking about SINNERBEATS. Some of his beats aren't beats at all, they just don't make any sense, like a movie with no story. I'm pointing this out because I want to see how many of yall agree that he's one of the worst non-beginner beatmakers on MBS. We always talk about tha best, well what about tha worst?

Yeah i feel ya blak about a "movie with no story".

Thats his own style though man. Not really cool to call him out on it. Ive heard way worse on this site. Your kinda hatin on him man. Throwin salt so to speak.

I knew someone would view this as hatin. You gotta see this through different lenses. I got nothin against him personally. My problem is people that make beats that make no sense, like that beat he got thats just a drum solo. I make music because its a gift and I put forth effort. I know the difference between a song that's good and one thats horrible. His are horrible, its like watching those people that dont know they're bad on American Idol. His own style, are you kidding me? That's not a style, thats laziness. I'm tired of people putting out crap like this. There's a reason why there are music theory and music fundamental classes. There's so much great music out there, but instead these people are making horrible music. Now if I made music that was this bad I would do something else. Do you realize how many things there are to do out here besides make beats? Beats aren't what im best at but im not bad at what I do.
You're probably right that it's not cool to call him out like this but I did it because this sort of thing gets on my nerves. If ur really not good at something then don't do it, it's common sense, which seems to be floating away from peoples consciousness these days. True hating is when you say there's nothing good about someone, even if u know them. This guy could be really cool and a good person, im not judging him based on his character. Im judging his beats and how immature they are. Get it?
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Thats his own style though man. Not really cool to call him out on it. Ive heard way worse on this site. Your kinda hatin on him man. Throwin salt so to speak.

I feel you man. Thats why I said sorta hatin. Its borderline. Thanks for the decrease in props though. Much appreciated.

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I feel you man. Thats why I said sorta hatin. Its borderline. Thanks for the decrease in props though. Much appreciated.

LOL, this thread isn't necessary and immature. Why does it matter if that dude makes beginnerish beats even if the person has been doing it for a while? If you think his beats are so horrible then instead of calling him or anyone else out just help him and give him some advice or constructive criticism.

I didn't decrease ur props, ha ha. I'll increase right now. But it is interesting that when you wrote ur previous comment that my props went down.
Remy wrote:

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I feel you man. Thats why I said sorta hatin. Its borderline. Thanks for the decrease in props though. Much appreciated.

I believe this thread is necessary because I want all of you to think about what choices we make in life are what we should be doing. The definition of immature is "childish and behaving like someone much younger". When I think of this I think of someone pointing at another and making fun of their beats. I'm simply using SINNERBEATS as a perfect example of someone doing something they aren't doing well at all. The fact that someone spends time making this crap offends me musically and annoys me logically, understand? I can't give him constructive criticism because 1.He's never on the forums and he doesn't respond to emails 2. How could I help? Am I gonna tell him to get better?
Look, being able to make music is a gift, not everyone has it. He doesn't have it unless all of a sudden he gets incredibly better by next week or something. If you read my comments in battles u should now I always give constructive criticism. But sometimes there are people that have been doing this for a while and suck and I try and tell them that they need to improve. People like this are basically like an old cow, sure they'll end up feeding some people but the taste is no good and most likely you won't have any big fans of your stuff? It's strange to think of that analogy but sit on it for a while.
LOL, this thread isn't necessary and immature. Why does it matter if that dude makes beginnerish beats even if the person has been doing it for a while? If you think his beats are so horrible then instead of calling him or anyone else out just help him and give him some advice or constructive criticism.[/quote]

blakngold wrote:

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I didn't decrease ur props, ha ha. I'll increase right now. But it is interesting that when you wrote ur previous comment that my props went down.
Remy wrote:

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I feel you man. Thats why I said sorta hatin. Its borderline. Thanks for the decrease in props though. Much appreciated.

My sentiments exactly on why my mine went down. I didnt touch yours. I dont play childish games man. I feel you on a lot of your points, I do. It may even come off offensive to you that someone makes a beat with no structure or curve what so ever... I also agree that cat has A LOT of learning to do. One thing you cant comment on is how someone expresses themselves through music. He isnt out here saying shit like "IM THE FUCKING TOP DAWG UP IN THIS BITCH" He isnt saying anything...

Music is in the soul even if you dont like what your hearing. His expressions are his. Again... it really is terrible but maybe its his stress relief... Maybe he does think he is big shit... We wont know until he comes in here to defend himself. Plus... There are still many on this site worse off. Lets just pray we dont have to listen.

I'm not attacking him at all even if it appears that way. I respect people that aren't assholes or dumbasses by choice. I respect producers that are horrible and are neither of the above. I respect them on a human level. But there's a part of me that's all about music and that part does not respect the music that these horrible producers create. I believe that we were all created to do something that we are good at. But there are those that choose to do something for whatever reason and they are bad at it and it really doesn't further them in all the ways it should and that to me is ignorance.
I know this debate could go on forever but the simple fact is that many people probably don't agree with me completely on this issue. The main point is im tired of listening to bad music. I'm taking a chance everytime I listen to a new producers song. I don't want to sound cocky at all. For example I really don't like a lot of my own music because I know im just not at the musical level i'd like to be yet. To make bad music and not know it and continue doing it is truly mind boggling to me.
I appreciate everything ur saying here cuz you are able to continue speaking your side on the issue. I think ur strongest point is "Music is in the soul, even if you don't like what your hearing." That's very true and in that sense I will support him but he should know by now that not many people like his beats. Over-confidence or not, you'll find stupidity their in the mix of things.

By the way, why would you think I decreased ur props, u should know me well enough by now to know im not like that. If you agree with any or all of what i've said here, put my props back to 10 please. Ur turn, ha ha.
Remy wrote:
My sentiments exactly on why my mine went down. I didnt touch yours. I dont play childish games man. I feel you on a lot of your points, I do. It may even come off offensive to you that someone makes a beat with no structure or curve what so ever... I also agree that cat has A LOT of learning to do. One thing you cant comment on is how someone expresses themselves through music. He isnt out here saying shit like "IM THE FUCKING TOP DAWG UP IN THIS BITCH" He isnt saying anything...

Music is in the soul even if you dont like what your hearing. His expressions are his. Again... it really is terrible but maybe its his stress relief... Maybe he does think he is big shit... We wont know until he comes in here to defend himself. Plus... There are still many on this site worse off. Lets just pray we dont have to listen.[/quote]

I just started this way to get peoples attention. He's most likely not the worst producer on here. Plus this is mostly ranting. I wasn't thinking very clearly when I wrote this. I was just angry with all the bad beats I had heard that day, ha ha.
blakngold wrote:

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Aight I use to think that T.R.U.T.H. had tha worst beats on here but I think i've found someone as bad and is not some amateur that just started. I'm talking about SINNERBEATS. Some of his beats aren't beats at all, they just don't make any sense, like a movie with no story. I'm pointing this out because I want to see how many of yall agree that he's one of the worst non-beginner beatmakers on MBS. We always talk about tha best, well what about tha worst?

Dude real talk we actin like crabs right now I get were you are coming from but if you look hard enuff you can find fault in everybody's beats. I'm not sayin you wrong for what you sayin but say it in a different way. Like dude said earlier be constructive with that shit not destructive.

True, u can find faults in every beat but when you start to find faults from every aspect of a beat, that's when it reaches a new level. People are always telling me to say these criticisms in a different way and im trying to. If you read what I wrote very carefully I explained as best I could that this is the music making part of my mind that's offended. Therefore that piece can't see a constructive way of criticizing beats that criticize my ears.
Imagine in real life you see somebody and u have no idea what they are like or what they've been through and you decide to say "hi" because ur somewhat interested in them. After you say that, they start to make loud annoying sounds (but they don't know they are annoying)and the only way you can get away is by running away like most people do with these issues or you can punch him in the face because he won't listen to you. Do you understand what im saying here? Same thing with people that make bad music.
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Dude real talk we actin like crabs right now I get were you are coming from but if you look hard enuff you can find fault in everybody's beats. I'm not sayin you wrong for what you sayin but say it in a different way. Like dude said earlier be constructive with that shit not destructive.

imma stand up 4 the lil niggas right now, everyone has they own style and they own ear 4 sound, so just let them do what they do, IMM CALLIN U OUT 4 A BEAT BATTLe