I've never had a problem with people sampling cause i've always done it. I didn't have a problem with it until today when I heard a song by J Rini called "The battle". The problem here is that he decided to sample the theme from "Schindler's List". For those of you who have never seen "Schindler's List", it's a film about the Holocaust and what it was like during that tragic time. Now that song was written to commemorate those people who died and it translates the sadness of that time through this song. When someone samples a song like that, it's as if he has no respect for a song that respects and remembers a tragic period in history. This song should remain where it is, by itself, not by some guy wanting to add drums to it so he can make some money off of it. I think we need to draw a line somewhere. What does everyone gotta say about this?

I feel u on that, like if a song was meant to stand for something and u go and throw bitches and ho's on it lol that's wack, but I mean what if the person who buys the beat is say jewish and wants the beat to add an updated flair to a classic that may mean alot to him or his people. I mean, think about it like this Hollywood sampled history to make that movie, the directors actors and such make money of the movie, just the same as if someone samples a song and makes money off it. If you knew for a fact that the sample from shindlers theme was going to be used for the latest track from MC such and such entitiled suck my ballz, then yea maybe u got a point lol but just to make a beat using the sample from a movie that was about a tragic event, i dont see it as being that bad.

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I've never had a problem with people sampling cause i've always done it. I didn't have a problem with it until today when I heard a song by J Rini called "The battle". The problem here is that he decided to sample the theme from "Schindler's List". For those of you who have never seen "Schindler's List", it's a film about the Holocaust and what it was like during that tragic time. Now that song was written to commemorate those people who died and it translates the sadness of that time through this song. When someone samples a song like that, it's as if he has no respect for a song that respects and remembers a tragic period in history. This song should remain where it is, by itself, not by some guy wanting to add drums to it so he can make some money off of it. I think we need to draw a line somewhere. What does everyone gotta say about this?

I see what ur sayin but most likely there's not gonna be some jewish guy buying it cuz he wants to rap on it. Some songs are meant to remain as they are instead of someone putting a beat to it for profit. Yeah Hollywood made money off that movie cuz they make money no matter what. The reason Steven Spielberg made that movie was 1. Because he's jewish and 2. He wanted to honor the people of the Holocaust. John Williams wanted to honor them as well through his gift of music. It's not always about money cuz I bet John Williams would have written that score for no money because him and Steven Spielberg just wanted us to remember what happend. That song was dedicated to the people of the Holocaust which speaks volumes through music. Even if J Rini were jewish what right would he have to make a beat out of a song that was meant for meditating on those that died in the Concentration Camps? Of course you wouldn't see this as being that bad because he's only putting a beat over a song that was made to remember a tragedy. So ur saying that we can sample anything no matter what it represents and to what degree, even if it was written in honor of people that were mass murdered?

Good topic, I don't do too much sampling my self. I see what your saying but we are the land of the free. Freedom of expression and all that stuff! On a personal level I would not want to have anything to do with it but someone might like it and if he can live with it then let him do him.

Yeah we are tha land of tha free, but why are their jails and laws? Because we need limits and human nature is known as curious people that are sometimes so curious that they begin crossing lines. The line of respecting the purpose of a dedication to a tragedy has been crossed. Now im not saying he's an evil person but there has to be some sort of limit on what we sample and for what purpose. The original song was made for a purpose, to dedicate to the rememberance of a sad time in history, one of the biggest events in history, right up there with African slavery in America. Whats the purpose of the beat J Rini made? He's manipulated the original purpose into something of the opposite.